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Robocop Vs. Terminator |
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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:17 am |
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So it's been done before. I just felt like tossing this up to see everyone's opinion on CPR on this hotly debated battle.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:22 am |
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I'm going with the Terminator if only because they were designed to kill.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:47 pm |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:15 pm |
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Hm. In a long drawn out battle I’d say Robocop, if only because he’s got more experience fighting machines while the classic Terminators don’t necessarily have the programming to fight a cyborg properly.
In a quick & dirty fight a prepared (i.e. properly programmed) Terminator slightly wins out in my opinion; he wouldn't have to calculate the exact weapon needed for a one-shot kill.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:56 pm |
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| Kovacs wrote: | Hm. In a long drawn out battle I’d say Robocop, if only because he’s got more experience fighting machines while the classic Terminators don’t necessarily have the programming to fight a cyborg properly.
In a quick & dirty fight a prepared (i.e. properly programmed) Terminator slightly wins out in my opinion; he wouldn't have to calculate the exact weapon needed for a one-shot kill. |
This is BS, Terminators are machines (not cyborgs). They have metal skeletons while Robocop is merely a enhanced human with programmable chip in his brain and a few technological extensions to his body - call it a cyborg. Because Terminators are all metal inside you'll need bigger and powerful firepower to destroy one. Further, the technology of a Terminator is far more advanced than the one used in Robocop and they are superior in programming, IMHO. Robocop is more fragile compared to a Terminator, if you cut off one of his legs he won't be able to do much. Cutting off a Terminator's leg is possible but more difficult since it's all metal and you don't cut metal that easy. Also remember that there are Terminators who are specifically designed/programmed to destroy other Terminators and the tactics of a Terminator are IMHO more sleazy than the one of Robocop. Robocop's armor compared to the Terminator's metal skeleton is a joke
I'd say a Terminator wins hands down
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:21 pm |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:01 pm |
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Gear the terminator up in a "kiddie suit" make him look like a kid, I'm sure they made smaller terminators.. Robocop wouldn't be able to harm our little terminator, and the terminator would in by default.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:37 pm |
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| microchip wrote: | | This is BS, Terminators are machines (not cyborgs). They have metal skeletons while Robocop is merely a enhanced human with programmable chip in his brain and a few technological extensions to his body - call it a cyborg. |
Honestly I don't know how much 'meat' of Murphy is left. I always got the impression he was mainly a brain in a tin suit; the face would be as cosmetic as the Terminator's own.
| NekOtaku wrote: | | Gear the terminator up in a "kiddie suit" make him look like a kid, I'm sure they made smaller terminators.. Robocop wouldn't be able to harm our little terminator, and the terminator would in by default. |
Depends on Robo's sensors, he's got some form of penetrative vision after all. Wether he's smart enough to use it - i.e. he picks up an odd speach pattern - depends on the writer of the story.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:41 pm |
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| Kovacs wrote: | | microchip wrote: | | This is BS, Terminators are machines (not cyborgs). They have metal skeletons while Robocop is merely a enhanced human with programmable chip in his brain and a few technological extensions to his body - call it a cyborg. |
Honestly I don't know how much 'meat' of Murphy is left. I always got the impression he was mainly a brain in a tin suit; the face would be as cosmetic as the Terminator's own. |
As far as I know, Robocop's upper body is still flesh (the torso and stuff) that's why it's behind a thick armor to protect it. His legs and arms are a combination of flesh and technology, AFAIK. The forehead is human while his back head is from metal. He still has human brains (the vague memories from his past which pop up in his brain are prove of that) but the core functions, like reaction, orientation, movement, etc are (all?) in a chip.
The other thing is that Robocop is/was designed to "protect and serve" (as is usual for a cop) while Terminators are designed/programmed to be mean killing machines and almost unstoppable when programmed with a mission which involves a specific target.
Terminators are designed to think as much as possible like humans, to behave in certain situations like humans (that's why it is so difficult in the Terminator movie to disguise a Terminator from a human being, hence the humans in the movie use dogs to sniff for Terminators because for humans it is much more difficult to recognize them) and have the advantages that they know every bit of the human anatomy which makes them the perfect human killing machine. As Robocop still has human weakness (because it's a cyborg meaning it has both human and synthetic parts) he is much more vulnerable than a pure machine like the Terminator
Further, if you set Robocop on fire, he'll burn to "death" while a Terminator will only loose his synthetic skin but will function perfect without it. All his wires/chips/computers and other electronic stuff is inside this metal skeleton and you'll need really high temperatures to melt this metal
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:37 pm |
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I'd like to point out that Murphy had jumped up abilities due to him being chipped. Additionally some of the programing is more than just legal code and prime directives. For example in Robocop (the original) when he enters the coke lab he scans and automatically targets each of the threats. I also just want to point out that in Robocop none of the bullets manage to peirce Robocop's armor. I guess I just like Murphy better which is why I favor him, though the Terminator is still pretty sweet.
Also, check this out....
Just thought I'd toss that into the mix.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:05 pm |
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I think that the Spartans would smash them all to pieces...
....WHAaaaat? Don't tell me you haven't seen the movie yet ;D
Anyway, I'd call it a tie. Robocop has got something that Terminator doesn't - a human brain, capable of creative thinking and clever ideas. The Terminator on the other hand is a much tougher opponent - he wouldn't mind losing an eye or two, aye?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:27 pm |
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Cadet SF, you are comparing apples to oranges. Terminators use future technology (because they are from 2029, IIRC) which is far more advanced that Robocop's - scanning different targets immediately is nothing new for a Terminator. I'm sure their "intelligence" level is far beyond Robocop's, it's not just programming, it's pure AI with huge databases which if you combine them all, won't fit into Robocop's chip or brain - these DB's are full of warrior tactics and other stuff. Further, if you let both of them fight with bare hands, the Terminator will crush Robocop as Robocop is pretty weak (his body/armor) whilst Robocop won't be able to bend any metal part of a Terminator (note that Terminators use special enhanced metal for their skeleton which is pretty tough). That said, your argument that Robocop's armor stops bullets is pretty weak. In T3, where the female Terminatrix blew away Arnold with a Plasma weapon, did nothing to his skeleton, he was able to get up and walk away without issues. Now try a powerful plasma weapon on Murphy and see how his armor melts away. Further, Terminators have secondary systems where if its primary system gets damaged during a fight or some dangerous action, secondary system route trough and kicks in. It may take a while but eventually he'll "come back to life"... which is another point for the Terminator being more tougher and difficult to destroy
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:33 pm |
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Robocop's advantage in his universe was that he was more agile and faster than ED209, he loses that advantage against the Terminator who was designed to take out soldiers fighting a war not Detroit 'creeps'.
Plus the terminator only experiences existential post-human adjustment if you switch his chip from 'read-only' to 'write' mode (presumably like a floppy disk, remember those?). So he's got that going for him, Murphy might crack up.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:56 pm |
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Heh, I wasn't trying to say Murphy is in someway had more computational power, but merely that he was more adaptive. Additionally lets not forget the cobra cannon which could probably mess the Terminator up (and by Terminator I mean the schwarzenegger model). Also Murphy's been a cop his whole life, he's trained with weapons, driven the streets, and just generally has had his whole mind conditioned towards law enforcement and everything that entails. He was programmed before he ever became Robocop.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:10 am |
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Well lets look at the two names of each entity, you got a terminator(machine with a sole purpose of killing its designated target), then you got Robocop...(who has to worry about police duties, and upholding the law.)
Terminator wins hands down only due to his zeal for killing 
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