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| SAI wrote: |
Unluckily, I still have just a little experience making electronic music  , so I´d appreciate a lot if someone could share his knowledge writing down some post about tools, music system & equipment, related webs... all that tech stuff.  |
I'm an electronic music enthusiast. There are a lot of programs you can use but the best place to start is with a sequencer like, Logic, Cubase, Cakewalk etc. Personally I use FL Studio because of it's intuitive simplicity and I don't feel constricted enough to move to more powerful software.
With a sequencer you can manipulate samples (usually in wav format) like drum loops or vocals and add effects (like reverb, delay etc.) However the mainstay of electronic music is VSTi's (Virtual Studio Technology Instruments), these are software versions of the old hardware synthesizers. Although nowadays you have instruments like Edirol Orchestra which emulates brass, woodwinds, strings etc.
The easiest way (for me) to become accompanied with all this stuff is to download a few demos and tweak away until you get something that you think sounds good.
Check out the forums at http://www.kvraudio.com/ as this contains a wealth of information for beginners and experts alike.
You can also grab a demo from http://flstudio.com/
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:43 am |
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Thaks for all the info illusivemind.
I have Flstudio, but this year has been pretty stressing, and I couldn´t try it more than just a little. But if the Flstudio examples can be done all with that program, it may be really useful.
By now I´ll take a look at that forums, try to get a tutorial (I don´t like much the one that comes within the program), and start doing anything until I get the idea.
I´d also have to get some equipment, mainly a external sound card & some mixer... That would be useful for external instruments that I plan to use, like guitars or synths... but it´s too expensive by now, I´ll try the "homemade way " 
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| Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:33 pm |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:22 am |
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I'm not a huge fan of them but surely The Velvet Underground (of "all tomorows parties" fame) must qualify.
And I tend to think of the lonesome sound of some ancient bluesman stroking a slide (probably brass, maybe a bottleneck but idealy one made from a chicken bone) across the strings of his geetar and singing about his troubles. BB King called it "a tonic for what ails ya." Thats what I hear.
In postmodernism things don't have to be esthetically consistant. What about a little Gram Parsons?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:01 am |
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CLOCK DVA
were planing a few more too.
net
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:55 am |
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| sfam wrote: | | I almost look at your list of emotions and don't see all that much difference from what we see in Blues music - especially if we add a sense of dispair. Then again, perhaps the emotions conveyed will be similar regardless of the oppression perceived. |
I'm almost surprised, that you mention Blues. Since that's what I was thinking about too. Maybe it wouldn't differ that much from the music as we know it today, maybe you just add some convincing sound effects and instruments instead of the classic ones and that's it.
Though the technology of producing music evolves of course. An example of this is software, that can tell if a piece of music is capable of becoming a hit. If you think about this further, one can imagine music that is designed to invoke certain reactions in brain of say 85% of the audience. This is of course a completely different approach and the result would also be likely much different from the music of today.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:11 am |
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| SAI wrote: |
Of course, there must me an opposite. Rich people would have a mp3 (maybe mp9 to be precise ) player implanted, so they can access to the hottest artist at the moment, and enjoy it directly inside their brain (by paypal). I reckon this kind of music should have similarities with Daft Punk. You know, some dancing but smooth music, with some traces of antique music (neoclasic, tribal, oriental...) all "processed & recycled for your best experience.... |
Nice advert, btw. I like your idea about what rich people would listen to. Since likely it would be some kind of mainstream like today and they probably wouldn't even know what music is.
The mainstream of today can only work, because there is this mass of it, that you can not escape. And it's very difficult for a consumer to pick the gems then. It's easier to buy mainstream.
So there would be some type of pointless music for rich people too. Something that is more fashion than arts.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:19 pm |
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Of course, nothing that I can imagine will look like future will be... Recent history is full of surprises, and the investigatios, discoverings, etc... are overpassed faster day by day.
Nowadays, mainstrean distorts music. This product is a big, big lie, artists become puppets, and that pretty ladies that shows the music videos dancing, moving hips and laughing...they are being paid for doing that. I can´t see true feelings in most of mainstrean music, so I can´t call it music.
I´m still praying (and working) for a music revolution to come  Something that will make mainstream dissapear, giving the music control to musicians. I think that internet can provide all the tools we may need.
btw, Thanks again Illusivemind, you´re helping me a lot xD!
... but it looks like in the end I´ll have to buy a good soundcard, at least an external one.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:33 am |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:56 pm |
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ehhh ehehe haha, wow I don't think i have ever had a chance to see those videos, I'm rally giggling, wow yea ssSputnik, yea I know them, thanks for the post you made my day.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:28 pm |
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| netsui wrote: |
ehhh ehehe haha, wow I don't think i have ever had a chance to see those videos, I'm rally giggling, wow yea ssSputnik, yea I know them, thanks for the post you made my day.
n |
I was an 80s teen, but never heard of Sigue Sigue Sputnik. Seeing the vids and hearing their sound for the first time was definitely worth it.
I was more into the heavy metal of the era (bands like Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, AC/DC, Judas Priest, etc.). Oh, yes... One particular song that some might consider cyberpunk since it deals with a person who wears a robot's shell...
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:50 pm |
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Well this should be a rather intresting thread for my 1st post but... I personally see the music of cyber-punk culture more along the lines of Combichrist, KMFDM and the like, just the driving beats and synthisized vocals are normally what call up visions of post-apocalyptic world in my mind, so usually it's industrial and ebm.
Nothing big just my 2 cents. 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:47 pm |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:45 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:11 pm |
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For my part, I think every music can be cyberpunk...
I mean, cyberpunk talk about a near future, and about media-corporation taking control of art an audience, enslaving all the art production...
In this way, all music that can be sell is good for them...
Now, we can talk about the underground production. Peoples than escape of the major and media-corporation. Technologies and globalisation networks give them the chance of diffusing their art and they can produce every type of art.
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I'm changing of subject, but it isn't so far
It's quite strange that cyberpunk stories always talk about the underground people, and not about the "normal" people (Ghost in the shell, stand alone complex, make it at times). People who works in manufactories or corporate middle-class...
This kind of people can listen the same commercial music existing today, and they are make part of cyberpunk background too.
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